yutaka seems to be able to breed them...

in discus, lordosis can create the high body fish[rather short spine] but a big percentage also are cacat and are 'belly gliders'[sure die one]. this is due to the bacteria attacking the spinal column when the fish are young.

discus breeder andrew soh noticed when he breed or notice other breeders stock is that sooner or later the whole farm is infected.
when the fish are treated with anti biotics everything revert back to normal.

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