thanks Stan on added information and the issue of water temp
well..in this hobby , one thing that never runs out is ....sifus! guess the sifus u mention could be the 3 stooges from ADA...hehehe..
of course they always say lower temp is good for any plant they could think of .. tempting folks with a carrot on a long pole...."buy this chiller surely can have nice plants ...i recommend this model for u..special price"

investing in a chiller is a good option...and honestly plants do grow nicely in cooler temp....BUT THEY WONT DIE WITHOUT ONE!

When i do setting for my clients...i always insist on a chiller, in most case my clients are those with a fat wallet...an extra rm1000 would be like 10 cents to us.......

."hello kawan semalam nasi makan 4.50 , hari ini sama sama makan lu mau 4.60 ah, apa macam kira lu???"

Insist ...in my term means an insurance ...i knew those plants will grow nicely with chillers...so in way ...i was more concern about getting my clients off my back after payment then to have any real concern about the well being of their new plants.

so...when i come here ...i come as the guy that do things like any other ah chong, ali or muthu...with a tight wallet...not as a professional.
whats the point of me talking to u guys in my terms....u would never believe me anyhow on the equipments i use.....
try this ...a 5 footer, with the complete soil system and medication...nothing else ...the bill rm5000.
or things like fly in 30 one inch diameter thick Eustrallis stems from jakarta for setting a tank in bangkok. would u believe such shit??...i guess not. so ...i write in the manner of a plain forum member on the same level as the rest except for a couple of OLD rabbits from my OLD hat........"Kopi satu...kau ah... buku masok ah".....................
Bos, dulu bulan punya blum bayar bos, cikit kasi bayar dulu la,cumua buku macok nati kira cucah bos


a few of u old timers should remember this ..... when we first set eyes on Glossostima many many years and were told by FS that glossos would only grow in cooler water. remember that shit?....and we believe!
see how it turns out now ....man, u could dump your glossos in some cool spot in your garden and the glossos will still grow.
the point is ...any information either its true or not depends on where or who it came from.

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