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[ari]

Originally Posted by dude_man523

1'st- bought from lfs and brought home
2'nd- drove home and set bags in tank fo 30 min.
3'rd- released fish into tank and fed a little food
4'th- left them alone until next feeding

but i did happen to watch 1 die he kinda faces straight up swam to the surface and acted like he was breathing off the top of the water and kinda floated back down and hit the gravel i sat thinking he might get up and swim away and he didnt i left him there till the next day to make sure and he was still there.

well..i aplogize for the late reply. its diffcult to know what happen.i presume it could the the problem with your water parameters.
angels are very hardy cichlids...they dont just die off like that. i ve seen angels kept and spawn in pollutted tanks...water than is greener than grass.
so from what u describe it could only be the water parameter.
is your tank an old established one ...do u have any other fishes in?
if u had fishes in them then your angels wouldnt had die...if they did then they did not aclamitise to it. angels dont just die off like that because of diease.....since diease take time to kill an angel and usually they do show signs.

guess its too late to save your angel...but here is what u could do in the future.
im sure u know how to choose a healthy fish , when u put them in your car ...always put them next to u...so could keep an eye on them...never in the booth.
when u set the bag in the tank fo 30 minutes...all u did was to stabllize the temp. next time pour in a glass of tank water into the bag. after ten minutes, take out a glass of water from the bag, the add in a glass from tank into the bag...do this repeatly for every ten minutes..several times over.
one other important thing...never ever feed your fishes on the day of arrival...let them get used to their new tank for a few days...only then feed them
remember...fishes will never die of hunger, some are know to go for weeks without food. they will only die from our own error.

[standoyo]

Ah, some good advice Ari. Just something to add...

Hi Dude,
Normally when the fish is listless like you descibed it means it's already at last gasp stage. Terminal, so nothing you can do already except wait. [miracles do happen!]

The salt treatment is good to for fish as it promotes slime production, slows down some bacteria[kills at higher concentratiion] plus other numerous properties that help make your fish feel ok.
[at 1ppt. 100g -100liters is mild and some cories and tetras can take it]
It is normally better for you to put in your new fish into a QT[quarantine tank] so that spread of disease don't occur into your community tank.
A teeny bit more info on the salt treatment and loaches/cories.

Not sure of your level of fishkeeping but it would be good to be as descriptive as possible in your question to avoid people dispensing wrong information. [Foruming is an art itself!]

For example if you imported wild angels from south america instead of buying it from the lfs[30-120 mins from your house] will mean a big difference in advice.
The fish from overseas typically would have a minimum of 48hrs in a bag of water that's saturated in ammonia and co2 with a low ph.[because of the ammonia] opening the bag means the co2 escapes and the ph goes up and the ammonia becomes the toxic form. The fish suffocates as it can't get oxygen.
So set up the QT beforehand and equalize the temperature open the bag and scoop the fellas right into the tank.
I've also tried dripping with thin airline hose from QT into new arrivals that were put into bucket. As soon as the water doubled, i scooped them into the QT.
A bit of homework beforehand needs to be done on your part regarding the water parameters that angels like.

So happy fishkeeping and hope the rest are doing better.

Regards

Stan