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Old 01-05-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default planted tank without additional CO2 supplementary, possible?

Tank Size: 4ft - 1.5 ft - 1.5ft tank

Lightning: Sakura T4-PL 55 R/W (2 tube) , White+pink

Fishes: neon tetra (29) , blue eyes tetra (20+) , rummy nose ( , algae cleaners (4)

Filtration system: sump

Plants:

1. amazon sword species
2. anubias bartari (maybe)
3. Lilaeopsis brasiliensis
4. java fern
5. Cabomba species
6. Mayaca
7. not a clue - but doesn't look very healthy.

More info can be found (with pics) at http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=50537
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Question:

1) Is it possible for them to survive without buying additional CO2 ? will my fishes can provide enough CO2 for the plants?

2) Is the lightning sufficient?

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Old 02-05-2005, 01:22 AM
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Firstly welcome to the forum....

To identify yr plants, you can goto :

www.tropica.com
or
http://www.aquaplant.org/

Since someone have helped you identified those plants, you can goto the above site to see their requirements...

You also probably need some base fert or substrate for the roots to take up certain nutrient from the substrate.

If you really do not want to inject CO2 into the tank.. you probably need to follow the Diana Walstad book titled " Ecology of the Planted Aquarium". She preach using natural way for the plants to take up Carbon, uses garden soil as base fert, have natural sun light into the tank... only does a water change every 6 months and probably can grow only slow growing plants..

You can read the reviews at Amazon.com

Photosynthesis depends on 3 factors, temp, co2 and lights... so with low or little co2, the plants might grow slow or slower.

Of coz, if too many slow plants grows in your tank and you have excess nutrient... algae will pay you a visit... The above mention book also have a full chapter that talk about combating algae in details...

Most of us probably start by using DIY CO2 using sugar n yeast to produce te CO2 before moving into CO2 cylinder...

Hope this helps to get you going...


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Old 02-05-2005, 01:25 AM
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Oh ya...forgot to mention that sump tank is a no no for planted tank as the CO2 will be easily released into the air with all the water movement....

Stan

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Old 03-05-2005, 08:07 PM
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sump nono ? haha so how shall i solve this problem then ?

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Old 04-05-2005, 12:42 AM
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Change yr filter


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Old 04-05-2005, 09:58 AM
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Take out all the pipes. Block the holes. Then get the canister for the filteration.

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Old 04-05-2005, 01:43 PM
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what does a canister filter look like ?

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Old 04-05-2005, 05:39 PM
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I gonna pengsan...you dont knw how is canister look like? Goto fish shop.. asking for the canister. and they will show u. Or else, goto www.eheim.com

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Old 04-05-2005, 06:00 PM
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dom....hahaha... here is some "minyak angin" for you...in case you pengsan...
hahaha so funny....

canister filter is like a "can", but a big big can with water tubes for water to flow in and out with a pump ( of coz nowdays eheim ) produce square can instead of the ecco rounded can...

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Old 04-05-2005, 09:27 PM
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aiyo no need pengsan la..

in jb most of us speak mandarin mar.. even most of the LFS boss also chinese(uneducated...)

u cakap "canister" and they'll huh ??!! u can only point to them what filter u wan...

i told them got "bio-rings / ceramic rings" or not .. they said "huh?" then scratch their head... and i hv to describe it's the ring which they normally put in the sump for bacteria grow.. only they know ... sigh ...

eh btw , if i have bio-balls, do i still need ceramic rings?
should i let my bio-balls float ? or putting them under the sponges ?

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