slow redundant growth and yellowish colour?....hahaha ...same problem with me.....but at least i knew why they are in this pityfull state.

in my case....i have them mixed with my red plants...and my main attention was getting the reds in good shape...the java moss getting its second class statues.
the java moss as u could see in my photos especially those which where tied high up are in yellowish colour...more likely ..LUUNG!..while the ones on the background are doing ok.
the reason......i have some serious lightings for this setup.....with reds in mind(150W for this 3 footer) while the reds are doing well, the moss is having a hard time with this high powered lightings...the one in the back ground is not getting as much light as the one in the middle , thus they are growing fine.
besides the moss in the middle wont be there for long...not after i get my hands on some more reds species.

but if have an all moss setup ...things would get easy for u ...since u are paying attention to moss only.yes ...they do well in cooler water temp...lightings would not be a big issue too.

drop by Tmn Putera whenever u are in cheras...im sure there would be a bag full of tips the plant sifus there could give u....and im not one of them...hehehe...i just tag along for the kopi-o

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but if have an all moss setup ...things would get easy for u ...since u are paying attention to moss only.yes ...they do well in cooler water temp...lightings would not be a big issue too.

drop by Tmn Putera whenever u are in cheras...im sure there would be a bag full of tips the plant sifus there could give u....and im not one of them...hehehe...i just tag along for the kopi-o[/quote]

Thanks for explaination....umm actually intend to set up a tank for moss only and intend to get some cherry shrimps as a start becoz from my reading..cherry would be easier to maintain if compared to others......

Thanks for invitation too....will surely drop by there for a view and get some tips......i guess u r too humble by saying u r not one of them... its not easy to tag along for kopi-o just like that...hahah need to be " IN " the group and able to share thoughts and opinions with others......but if tok kok only...i am good at that la.....haha

Dont be too sure about that! I find them most difficult to maintain compare to the others!!!! Till today, I do not seem to have any luck with cherries.

KG

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Hi Ari. Need to pick your brain a bit:

What type of UV light are you using - expensive one or the RM65 one you mentioned? Do you use it all the time or only when necessary?

In this setup you are showing, have you encountered any algae yet? (haha...'yet'...jahat betul). I am having some little issues with hair and brown algae. Hair on the leaves that are nearest to the water surface (lights) and brown algae on moss at the bottom and mid level of the tank.

This will be the end of the second week since I re-scaped. Haven't added any ferts yet apart from the base fert in the substrate. Thought of removing any traces of algae, trimming general cleaning before planting ferts tabs. Ok ah?

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Hi KG...thanks for feedback. I am not too sure about this also as i have yet to try it..theoritically and practical is another thing ya...haha perhaps just try and see what is the outcome like....hahah currently planted tank got 5 yamato and all are doing well at current....hehe but i think yamato is the least toughest ones if compared to others ya....

Expensive UV lights could go as high as rm15,000 per unit...i have some of those plus a couple of Ozone machines (industrial grade) for my live seafood storage in indonesia.
as on the hobby side...im not so willing to spend any big money...so everything has to be cheap...and the rm65 price suits me just fine.
becarefull when using UV lights...too much of it does more harm than good. a few hours a day would be enough...for your setup size ...2 hours would be more than enough on a 9w UV.
if no more algae...stop the usage of UV.


the NO 1 setup ...is done on purpose to contract algae, full lighting ..full blast of ferts and...yes it has algae....mainly green hairy type.
the main aim is to test several anti algae medication and the use of UV lights.
Ocean Free brand wins in the first round and with one application only....the others havent been tested....i already got a winner in my hands.

Brown and Green algae together ah ...aiyo brader....u use what light ah? PL izzit? if true is PL ...then u know where you problem is....PL light is ultra powerfull on Lux ...its more than your 2 footer tank can take.
for PL lights i onli recommend if the height of your tank is 2 feet and over, other wise use normal flo tubes.

the main concern is ...does algae still appear now after u re did your tank 2 weeks ago?..if yes...the i suggest u rethink about investing in a new tank and plants....and do things the right way this time round .
investing in an UV light is not going to solve your problem,its not easy to keep healty plants free from algae in a 2 footer. it really takes a lot of experience and know how to maintain a small tank...the smaller the more diffcult it becomes

believe this or not ....people who do badly with a 2 footer often get better result when they switch to a bigger tank.

as with your trimming this weekend...if u have algae in your tank now...what will happen if u trim is...more algae will appear...remember what i said about plants would slow down on fotositensis after trimming...and u are about to add in ferts...wow...i smell burning from the ricepot!!!!

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well...theres no such thing as IN or OUT the group with the people i mix with. we are not the KKK or the ADA 3 stooges or the 88 grand sifus who had one eye fixed to the ceiling when talking to lesser people.

we are mostly business people dealing in the aquatic sector...and we dont even want your money..we dont talk about plants or fish...unless people ask us about it...usually we talk about girls, ah ...that supplier just employed a new office girl...bery chun o....can try hor....or about 4 ekor.....or the fussy aunty who doesnt seems to quit calling every 5 minutes after installing her marine tank. or this bank just blacklist me...so u got friend in bank negara...etc etc.
no sifus , no ma chai...everyone is the same ...u need help or advice...mah next round kopi o on u lo....the simple chinese way of dealing.

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no sifus , no ma chai...everyone is the same ...u need help or advice...mah next round kopi o on u lo....the simple chinese way of dealing.[/quote]

Thanks in advance.... kopi O + roti banjir as u always mentioned here no problem on me if u hv free time to spare to offer ur advise + experience.....haha ... will try to drop by the mentioned place (62) and look for Bro Ari...haha....

Yea best looking FS lady boss, subang jaya ss18. But mother of two, a bit ah lian and LCLY.

hi ari...

Wanna ask some questions if you don't mind...

Have you so far encounter green spot algea on the glass? i have glass algea on the glass of my tank...
any good way or advice to over come it?
Thanks

regards,
John