Where to find Good Fontosa in PJ/Selangor

[JetR]

Hi,

I would to like to buy 8-10 Fontosa to start off my fontosa collection.

Can any member tell me,

1) would it be better to start off with baby fontosa (1-1.5") or adult, I understand the growth rate is slow?

2) What is the current market price for Fontosa baby/adult ?

3) Fake/Genuine, I recall there are instances of fake fontosa, how to you distinguish them ?

4) Any contact or wholesales shop where I can find good Fontosa in PJ/Selangor/Klang??


Tks

[colim98]

bro, pls go to the below link which can learn more about frontosa variants.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/article...osa_corner.php


1) to me i prefer starts to rear from juv stage. for growth rate, burundi is the slowest, mpimbwe is the fastest. my mpimbwe grow from 1.5 inch to 6 inch in a year(alpha male)..

2) if refer to the common burundi at the lfs, price range is around rm15-25 for juv.

3) fake frontosa? me nvr seen before. did u refer to hybrid? i mean cross breed between frontosa variant.

4) u can call the ex-owner of Cichlid Connection lfs in PJ SunwayMas, he is doing wholesales now but still entertaint small volume order.
Joe, 012-2358837

[ari]

HI BRO COLIM...i saw this yesterday ..i thought u would the best person to reply this and bro Jet ....sifu colim here is the man ...

[colim98]

Originally Posted by ari

HI BRO COLIM...i saw this yesterday ..i thought u would the best person to reply this and bro Jet ....sifu colim here is the man ...

haha bro ari, me no sifu lar, just info sharing only.

[JetR]

Tks Bro Colin98,

Good information from the web-link you gave.

What is your opinion. I am starting my aquarium collection, do I stick with just Fontosa or mix with other africa Cichlid.

And for water filter system on a 4 - 6 ft aquarium, which is the most suitable system - power-head, traditional top placement filter system or others ?

[ari]

Originally Posted by JetR

Tks Bro Colin98,

Good information from the web-link you gave.

What is your opinion. I am starting my aquarium collection, do I stick with just Fontosa or mix with other africa Cichlid.

And for water filter system on a 4 - 6 ft aquarium, which is the most suitable system - power-head, traditional top placement filter system or others ?

before u even attemp to buy any fish , especially an expensive fish ...i suggest u invest a little in your filteration. top placement filters are only for kids and flowerhorn keepers if u are going for 4 to 6 ft tanks, then buying an additional 3 feet one for filteration doesnt seems like a bad idea, it wont be expensive ...and in the long run it does pay off. with this tank u can either do a mix dry and wet system or a just a single wet. im very fussy when it comes to filteration ...for my big central american tanks...i use 3 stage dry and 4 stage wet system, with a calsium reactor, plus a protein skimmer. this are all home made...so it doesnt cost too much . actually these are the equipments used for a marine system , but with a little modification it could be used for freshwater with A1 results.

[colim98]

bro ari already helped explain mostly about the filteration, but his setup is too professional and i see it as "crazy" i wish i can hv one of those sump tank.

if u insist for a frontosa tank, u should get a tank at least 5ft and above, 6x2.5x2.5 is recommended, the best filteration for all this giant tank is to use sump tank, the bigger the sump tank with more partitions, the better the result.

now comes to the fish part, to me i dun enjoy to see a group of adult burundi swimming in the tank, they just dun hv any coloration, basically just black and white, strange thing is they hv more blue color during the juv stage. pls make a rite choice of the frontosa u r getting, they can be kept more than 15 years. if u like the kok like flowerhorn, then burundi is ur choice.

some good photo gallery of frontosa, mostly the zaire pics:
check out the below link and go to the photo gallery section, they hv tons of nice pics of frontosa setup.

www.frontosa-forum.com

the best tankmate for frontosa is comp/calvus, of course u can add some other african cichlid like malawi cichlid, just carefully choose those non agressive cichlid.

[ari]

hahaha...its not crazy...and surely not expensive and everyone can afford them. they are all home made ...remember ...so u need to spend time at the hardware shop. i cannot afford those expensive stuff straight from the FS rack.......a medium 5inch wide skimmer cost abt rm350 to 600, depending on the brand and without powerheads...now this is crazy. but with a little imagination using pvc pipes ,a 6inch wide skimmer could be made for less rm40. the more u make , cost will spread and it will be much cheaper.one thing i would suggest an aqurist to pick up is...to learn the skill of glass cutting. second hand glass is cheap and plentiful in malaysia (rm15 per sq meter for 8mm)..and u could cut and design what ever u had in mind ...saving the expensive ready made aquarium, and seriously...a good aquarist doesnt mean he is only good in keeping fish ...he must be good in imaginations and saving cost. buying ready made stuffs is truly beyond my means with all the tanks i have ...i will go broke

[mybirdshit]

Hehe...not every setup can have sump system leh...like my 4 foot tanks all old old from my dad, no space to put sump...same goes to other tanks I have. So I use sponge filters and modify the overhead filter a bit...works okay for my dad so far. But I do recommend using sump system. I use sump system for my uncle's 4'x2'x2' tank in KL...the tank loaded with full of high quality bio-rings form Germany(taken from my dad since he replaced his in his koi pond with blue jap matting...they cost a bomb though these rings) can take hell of a load. Last time my uncle put in an 8 inch Syns, three 6-7 inch bifas, 4 burundi frontosas(4-7 inch) and 2 plecs, just change water once a week, the fish all grew very fast. Only had to separate all the fish after the bifas paired off(torturing the last bifas) and the Fronts while they were not target of any agrression, the large syns and bifas pair hog all the food and the Fronts started to lag behind in growth. So to feed them properly removed them.

Note: Bifas were put into this setup at 3 inch...kept in this setup for 2 months they doubled their size to 6-7 inch.

[ari]

hahaha bro nic...instead of having your filters below which is impossible on old old aquarium , u could of course place it by the sides if space permits. oh yes...those ceramic bio rings are truly expensive ...and to fill in all my filters , i would need at least , 50 kilos x 12 setup= 600kilo....waaaah, die la...i would have to go on goreng pisang and kopi-o for at least two years i use crushed coral instead, big size for drys and smaller ones for wets. for south american set ups i avoid using corals , but use my mum s hair roller for the drys and fine harden clay chips for wets. ok tips!...i use natural dried Peat Moss for lowering the ph. can be bought at the plants and flower nusery for less than rm5 per kilo. steal your sister or wife s stockings ..fill it up and place it your filter and you are in business...i like the light tannic stains...just like in the amazon. i hardly could afford the stuff they sell at the FS for lowering or getting your PH up, so i use this method for lowering the ph , and for higher ph i use ...soda bicarbonate....in another words ...baking powder...yup, the one mum uses to bake her cakes. for KH...ah , this is abit more complicated...i use a home made reactor. i dont want to go into this unless u pm me la