Where can I buy Balloon Rams like these?

[standoyo]

actually kevin they look cute but they could be some dr frankenstein's creation thru some disease/chemical infecting the spine of the fish from young thus creating a deformed/shortened spine. a diseased form of fish from lordosis IMO.
just so you know.

[yogigan]

yala go for the real one all these balloo, short body fishes are against nature .

[winksta]

i thought they are actually like that, rm 15 is too exp for it. once i saw it for rm7 .. rm5 oso can get. choose wisely bro. but there's no females for sale.

[standoyo]

yutaka seems to be able to breed them...

in discus, lordosis can create the high body fish[rather short spine] but a big percentage also are cacat and are 'belly gliders'[sure die one]. this is due to the bacteria attacking the spinal column when the fish are young.

discus breeder andrew soh noticed when he breed or notice other breeders stock is that sooner or later the whole farm is infected.
when the fish are treated with anti biotics everything revert back to normal.

[winksta]

i see..well might be that ... but some books classify them as another genus. not sure bout that but outside mostly they dont sell females.

[chochiss]

Originally Posted by standoyo

actually kevin they look cute but they could be some dr frankenstein's creation thru some disease/chemical infecting the spine of the fish from young thus creating a deformed/shortened spine. a diseased form of fish from lordosis IMO.
just so you know.

So the real Rams are the long bodied types of wut? Ballon rams are modified?

[goodreef]

Originally Posted by chochiss

Can let me know where's A1 in Subang?

It's a wholesaler ... after you go there, you would not want to go to your LFS anymore!!!

Go past Subang airport ... keep on the main road all the way. About 5-10 mins drive AFTER the airport.

Keep looking out for a sign board on the right that says A1. It is a small dirt road, and may be easy to miss. Once you turn into the small dirt road, travel for another 1 minute, and you will reach it (on the right).

Things you will see on the main road BEFORE you reach the turning : Y-Junction where there are lots of new shop lots. Just keep on main road (right side). Orchid farm on the right. Car chop shop on the right.

Hope this helps.

[standoyo]

Originally Posted by chochiss

So the real Rams are the long bodied types of wut? Ballon rams are modified?

apistogramma ramirezi aka butterfly rams/blue ram...google it. beautiful...not as cute perhaps but it is what nature intended...before modding...

[chochiss]

Originally Posted by goodreef

It's a wholesaler ... after you go there, you would not want to go to your LFS anymore!!!

Go past Subang airport ... keep on the main road all the way. About 5-10 mins drive AFTER the airport.

Keep looking out for a sign board on the right that says A1. It is a small dirt road, and may be easy to miss. Once you turn into the small dirt road, travel for another 1 minute, and you will reach it (on the right).

Things you will see on the main road BEFORE you reach the turning : Y-Junction where there are lots of new shop lots. Just keep on main road (right side). Orchid farm on the right. Car chop shop on the right.

Hope this helps.

Thanx! Will go visit after CNY!