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[mybirdshit]

Haha! (laughing at Dom's post)

Anyway myself is not really hate, just don't support. Have seen some really attractive hybrids before. Just for keeping ok la. But not to breed ler. Speaking of dogs, the one I used to keep was mixed, but he was oh so adorable, anywhere I go he attract lots of attention ler >haha<

[KISS2BANG2]

Originally Posted by Cichlid Connections

Ah Hia (KissAssGangBang),

U are free to keep what you like.... some ppl just state their preference, just like u did. No quarrelsome over this and that... and the issues of hybridisation has been discussed in so many boards that there would be no end to it. Some are for the better in the case of mammals so that they are genetically stronger etc. It's right down to individual preference.

However, ur examples used is a whole misconception of hybridisation. Hybridisation as you brought it would not be people of mix parentage. People are humans and we are all under the species of Mammals.... hybridisation in this context would mean a human screwing a chimp or a donkey or an elephant. So offsprings produced are mutts. In the fish world its rather complicating, hence the question is raised often.... what constitutes a species ?

Asian cross with Angmoh is equivalent to Cichlid cross with other cichlid. If their chromosomes not ngam, cannot breed one. For example, if man cross with cow, u can't get a MANCOW. So the same is for Cichlid cross with Labryinth fish, cannot breed one. Only those within the same genetic makeup can cross. Can Man cross with an Orang hutan? No way cos although they are mammals, they cannot breed successfully. Can cichlid breed with Arowana since they all fall into the category of fishes? But if Cichlid can cross with cichlid, means within same family. As much as there are many pure cichlid hobbyists, there are equally, if not more, others who accept hybrids. No winners, no losers.

[Pilik-Palak]

Originally Posted by dom

What pearl butterfly? What midas? What KimKong or King Kong? really confused. Are those names named by you guys? I am not in Genetic Engineering lar... but found this thread kind of syok... long time hvnt see ppl fight in forum for nonsense.

hehehe...good thread to read.

Red parrot has 3 cichlid gene ,midas ,synspilum and fastae.in the book,onli 2 cichlid ,synspilum and midas.unfortunally when this two croses ,there no red parrot so they took the fastae gene to complite the proses.

Then some hobbies back crossed to midas in double doses b'cos the male red parrot cannot TFK..
this generation they called "Mui kuai ka yan' (red rose).
crossed with male carpinte called fa pow(flower leopard).
crossed with male synspilum in double doses it called fo fung wong(fire phoenix)
crossed with biafaciatum fo fung wong(fire phoenix).
crossed with managuense ???
crossed with trimaculatus it called fa kok(flower kok).here is the line of 1st generation of flower horn.

king kong parrot /giant red parrot
this fish was comes from mui ka yan in triple crossed with the red parrot.this is the main reason the most male hv nuchal hump when mature.red body and shorter body.to make the body more shorter,they inject with short body midas cichlid to make it more compact.

the pearl butterfly flower horn is the fish hv a metalic scale of the combination of carpinte and spot of trimaculatus.the spot cover the entri scale while the sparkling spot of the fastae in the tail part and the synspilum red at the front head part and the nuchal hump combination 60% synspilum 40% midas.the central flower is fastae mark with cover blue metalic sheen.

that all....

[Cichlid Connections]

Originally Posted by Pilik-Palak

Muuuuuuhhhhaaaaa,been so long didn't hv this type of kick...so shok....nia.

Dom,
let me tell u a story that happen to my X class mate.he married a chinese girl and as he's chinese oso.then when they first born child ,look chinese style,2nd is daughter little bronze in the hair don't seem diffrence in colour if u don't reliased it....then their 3rd son comes in Diffrence totally not chinese look, the eye look little greenesh .they tot that took the wrong baby so .my friend told the doctor about this thing and the doctor also geleng kepala.

then ,u know what my friend think..la...LoL...
at the end that his mother in law told him that she is is mixed as he families comes from Melaka....she got portugis ,chinese and jawanese mixed.then u know what will happen la......

so dom, now b4 get married ,pls asked the other side their back ground first ...really don't want to seeeee u in jail b'cos being 'mang tou wu yin'(Blind fly)...LoL...

About the green hat!,can be happen oso....LoL

Man.... u have complicated people all around I suppose.....

[Cichlid Connections]

Originally Posted by KISS2BANG2

Asian cross with Angmoh is equivalent to Cichlid cross with other cichlid. If their chromosomes not ngam, cannot breed one. For example, if man cross with cow, u can't get a MANCOW. So the same is for Cichlid cross with Labryinth fish, cannot breed one. Only those within the same genetic makeup can cross. Can Man cross with an Orang hutan? No way cos although they are mammals, they cannot breed successfully. Can cichlid breed with Arowana since they all fall into the category of fishes? But if Cichlid can cross with cichlid, means within same family. As much as there are many pure cichlid hobbyists, there are equally, if not more, others who accept hybrids. No winners, no losers.

In fish is different lar..... Amphilophus one species, Vieja one species.... u are rite if chromosomes not ngam sure cannot breed like for instance Vieja and Mbuna. If Cichlid was the species then..... all will interbreed. Thus, in validation Cichlid is likely the genus and the various categories is the Species. Haiya..... damn confusing wan lar.... unless we study taxonomy then we will understand lar... but who really gives a damn. I just want mine to remain a valid species that's all. Actually I am not so picky that the geographical variants all must correspond.. leave it as it is lar.

[mybirdshit]

My understanding la...hybridisation between different species but within same genus(Vieja synspilum and Vieja bifasciata for example) can be done with a few exceptions that cannot. Hybridisation between different species which are in different genus is usually not possible but there are again exceptions. Read it in some science papers somewhere I forget liao.

[Pilik-Palak]

Originally Posted by Cichlid Connections

Man.... u have complicated people all around I suppose.....

Bro,
this is tru story not sain feksion wan...really happen ,if u seen the children ,u oso geleng kepala....LoL....CC ,do u asked ur wife/girlfriend about her back ground ar.....??....scared tragedi malapetaka berulang lagi,then susah la...

[Pilik-Palak]

Originally Posted by Cichlid Connections

In fish is different lar..... Amphilophus one species, Vieja one species.... u are rite if chromosomes not ngam sure cannot breed like for instance Vieja and Mbuna. If Cichlid was the species then..... all will interbreed. Thus, in validation Cichlid is likely the genus and the various categories is the Species. Haiya..... damn confusing wan lar.... unless we study taxonomy then we will understand lar... but who really gives a damn. I just want mine to remain a valid species that's all. Actually I am not so picky that the geographical variants all must correspond.. leave it as it is lar.

U know how do they do it,inject hormone then squeesed the telur and air mani .mixed together and then jadi anak .Got anak means got money....

mmmm thinking get this hormone and inject to my cichlids american X african...what will comes out?...ame-can cichlid..can be the next cichlid HITS!.LoL..

[KISS2BANG2]

Originally Posted by Pilik-Palak

Red parrot has 3 cichlid gene ,midas ,synspilum and fastae.in the book,onli 2 cichlid ,synspilum and midas.unfortunally when this two croses ,there no red parrot so they took the fastae gene to complite the proses.

Then some hobbies back crossed to midas in double doses b'cos the male red parrot cannot TFK..
this generation they called "Mui kuai ka yan' (red rose).
crossed with male carpinte called fa pow(flower leopard).
crossed with male synspilum in double doses it called fo fung wong(fire phoenix)
crossed with biafaciatum fo fung wong(fire phoenix).
crossed with managuense ???
crossed with trimaculatus it called fa kok(flower kok).here is the line of 1st generation of flower horn.

king kong parrot /giant red parrot
this fish was comes from mui ka yan in triple crossed with the red parrot.this is the main reason the most male hv nuchal hump when mature.red body and shorter body.to make the body more shorter,they inject with short body midas cichlid to make it more compact.

the pearl butterfly flower horn is the fish hv a metalic scale of the combination of carpinte and spot of trimaculatus.the spot cover the entri scale while the sparkling spot of the fastae in the tail part and the synspilum red at the front head part and the nuchal hump combination 60% synspilum 40% midas.the central flower is fastae mark with cover blue metalic sheen.

that all....

i'm indeed impressed. Proofs that you are truly 5th level genetic engineering.


but sorry to disappoint you because I realize I'm actually at 10th level la. You are way behind wor. cos......................................


at 10th level i.e. the highest level,..........u leave the breeding to the 5th level and let them do all the dirty tedious work and just BUY and ENJOY the PRODUCT haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[KISS2BANG2]

Originally Posted by Pilik-Palak

U know how do they do it,inject hormone then squeesed the telur and air mani .mixed together and then jadi anak .Got anak means got money....

mmmm thinking get this hormone and inject to my cichlids american X african...what will comes out?...ame-can cichlid..can be the next cichlid HITS!.LoL..

u think breeding fishes is like making milo shake ah? add this ingredient then get neslo etc? If add hormone can get different species of fishes, why dun u try add your sperm into the eggs and see whether mermaid can hatch or not la

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa