*Mystic* Severums - ID?

[MysticVampyre]

Hey Everyone!

Juss wondering if you could help me properly ID this Pair of Severums?
They were sold to me as "Red-Bellied Severums" but I can not find the info for that name?
They look like Green Severums when they Spawn, but normally look very Orange and Red in Colour every other time!

This pic is the Original Pic taken by the people I bought them from:


And this pic is mine that I took while they were spawning:


And yes, they are the same fish, I have seen them this colour before,
but they spawn often, so normally a dark colour rather than the Orange/Red colour.

Hope someone can help a lil'?

Thanx in Advance!

[ari]

funny really ...the first pic is suppose to be Golden severum, yet they turn green during spawning.
well..i tot your joking ...but the face patent on both photos seems to fit .


i had golds spawning before ..but they remained in their orginal colour with some added red.

well...post more photos ok

[MysticVampyre]

Thats wat I mean Ari - They are Golden/Red Colour if they are not breeding, and go Dark Gold/Green when they are!

Took this pic juss now - they are getting ready to breed again!


And another:


And yes - same fish - same tank - No Im Not Joking! (lol)

[ari]

hahaha...u dont need any explanations for why they change their colour...anyhow u have apair of handsome fish in both green and yellow, very good face marking.

anyway where did u get this pair?...any results from their spawn?

btw ...i might drop by NZ in late july, dun mind if could show me some real nice spot for some brownies and rainbows..

[MysticVampyre]

Fankies for that!
Like I said, they were sold to me as 'Red-Bellied Severums' so I was juss wondering wat they actually are! (lol) Cause if I am going to breed them, I do not want to sell them as that if they are not!
They are a beautiful Pair indeed, bought them from a Local.

Yur always welcome to come visit over our place, good to meet wonderful people!

Wat are Brownies and Rainbows?
(You guys call things so different over there!) Haha!
Or are you talking about Trout?

[ari]

Originally Posted by MysticVampyre

Fankies for that!
Like I said, they were sold to me as 'Red-Bellied Severums' so I was juss wondering wat they actually are! (lol) Cause if I am going to breed them, I do not want to sell them as that if they are not!
They are a beautiful Pair indeed, bought them from a Local.

Yur always welcome to come visit over our place, good to meet wonderful people!

Wat are Brownies and Rainbows?
(You guys call things so different over there!) Haha!
Or are you talking about Trout?

i was hoping there are greens...coz golden are sort of a hybrid...cant never get myself used to hybrids.anyway...the resulting babies would eventually give u some light what they actually are.

yup rainbow and brown trouts....i heard from pals, in NZ u guys do sight fishing, see the fish and cast towards it...hehehe, gotta try this, with a native guide of course.
unlike in malaysia...its blind casting...plenty of guesswork....and most of time u dont get anything.

[Pilik-Palak]

Originally Posted by ari

i was hoping there are greens...coz golden are sort of a hybrid...cant never get myself used to hybrids.anyway...the resulting babies would eventually give u some light what they actually are.

yup rainbow and brown trouts....i heard from pals, in NZ u guys do sight fishing, see the fish and cast towards it...hehehe, gotta try this, with a native guide of course.
unlike in malaysia...its blind casting...plenty of guesswork....and most of time u dont get anything.

The golden form is not a xbred but mutation from green form.

Anyways,
IMO,
the fish might contain gold severum gene.if u sucessfull bred them and the offspring contain green and gold....then my teori is correct...good luck .hope can updated us on the result.cheers.

[MysticVampyre]

As far as I know - they have had bubbas and they look juss like the parents.

This is the pic they (the Seller) sent me:

[mybirdshit]

Well, the gold form of Heros efasciatus(no longer Heros severus) is supposed to be the colour mutation of the green. Though because the history of the gold form was not recorded or anything and it was so long ago, some people speculate it may be a hybrid though I do not believe so. The ones in your pic looks like a cross colour between both, so maybe one parent or grandparent or great grandparent was a green and the other a gold. I foresee no problems here.

[Cichlid Connections]

Yeah... Mybirdshit got it right.... These are not actually Heros Severus.... Apparently the true severums are actually delayed mouthbrooders similiar to some of their geophagus cousins. A mistake made in the trade for ages.

These should be line bred Efasciatus. On the variant...... only the breeder knows.