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peace peace peace??? ur English very poor as u say la. Is it supposed to be PISS PISS PISS OFF? hehehe
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06-10-2006, 10:19 AM
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lol... no la.. its P E A C E... hehe... how are you bro... keeping what aro now?
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06-10-2006, 10:26 AM
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hehe...i knw who is that fella who keep killing his aro. Anyway, we are out of topic.
Ballon rams are always my gf's favourite. But i never success to keep them alive for more than 6 months. Was abled to breed few...but died within months.
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you want deals on radiated or leopard??
Still got lots of exotic land tortoise... if you are interested... Sulcata, cherry head /cherry foot, hinged back, yada yaya.... if interested, PM me..
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09-10-2006, 12:36 AM
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Ok, back to topic on "Balloon rams"
The "Balloon" look in any fish is a propagated deformity, very likely from excessive in-breeding. I speculate this because we have seen some "balloon" Apistogramma pop up in our local spawns after generations of breeding from originally imported stocks from Europe. For almost 2years, the apistogramma were producing normal looking fry. Then all of a sudden, of late, more and more spinal deformities are noticed culminating in "balloon" apistogramma popping up. U see, the Asian market has a penchant for glorifying and marketing IMO what should really never be (Well, the Chinese and Japanese did start the mutant Goldfish propagation). For some reason, balloon everything fetches more than the normal form of it when these should be culled and seen as a very bad sign of poor breeding by much of the western fish keeping world. U see, in Europe, when breeders see such signs of deformities show up in their bred fish, the first re-action would be to introduce newunrelated lines into their breeding. This may be thru exchange with other breeders with un-related lines or the inclusion of some wildcaught fish into the breeding program. The idea is to keep the fish as un-related as possible and as close to natural as possible in our captive confines. In Asia, many of the breeders IMO are ignorant, and any deviation (read: mutant) from the norm is perceived as a way of making more money.... sigh... When was the last time a local farm breeding rams brought in some wildcaught rams from Venezuala to introduce new blood into their fish?? In short, this is what I see happening in our local ornamental fish breeding circles: 1. Inbreeding causes deformities. Local solution: Market these deformities... make more money (ie propagation of freaks) 2. Inbreeding causes loss of colour: Local solution: Feed hormones and steroids to the fish and make them even more colourful (while at the same time destroying their internal functions and shortening their lives..) The term "German Balloon ram" is an oxymoron. If they were German imports, they wouldn't be "Balloons" (or long fins) as they don't practice keeping deformities. IF they were German rams, don't expect them to be super colourful at 2-3cm. They will grow to maturity before starting to show all the spectacular colours we expect. To have a 2-3cm ram fully coloured, there are 2 things that come to mind... Hormone fed (which means won't live long), or stunted (again, another poor sign of in-breeding). Why u won't see them at the LFS is precisely because of the above. Most Asian hobbyis want immediate gratification, and most remain ignorant of the cruel fact of what happens in order to get them "Freaks" (appologies for lack of a better word.) However, as of late, a few big exporters in Malaysia have noticed the demand for the true-blue un-altered, hardy ram and have taken steps to import good stock and breed them for export. I have realised the demand for the REAL HARDY ram for a long time, and I know these fetch a far higher price than the local bred (crap) on the export market to the Western countries. We have brought in a few shipments of wildcaught and German bred rams for breeding here locally and have started producing in good numbers for export. These fish will likely not meet the local standard of instant gratification, hence not sold locally thru fish shops. They are far more expensive, and at 3cm, many are not as colourful as the local balloon or long fin rams we see (hormone fed! inbred). However, the price of these are 3-5times that of the locally produced fish at twice the size!! OK, ranting too much already.... enough said. Last edited by kevkoi : 09-10-2006 at 12:05 PM.
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