Quarantin Procedures for Discus in new homes

[Andrew Soh]

Hi Stan,

if you feel that the problem is bacteria, changing of antibiotic may deem necessary...but each antibiotic treatment should be given a time frame of 12 days to see result.

Take care,
Andrew

[standoyo]

oops, using anti mycopur now[acriflavine copper sulphate etc], the fish did belly swim.
i reduce the dose by diluting water 50%.
no eye see already...

[Andrew Soh]

Hi Stan,

No eye see already...then use a needle and try as suggested in DPH, brother,..but must be very clean/ sterile.

Take care,
Andrew

[btlee]

"Li khor boh wa khor" ( your suffering is none as compared to my suffering ).

Another fish died of the most unusual and mysterious cause.
Many of the fish was dark looking especially the 4 new fish I bought 2 weeks ago ( without quaranteen in my place ).
But they were the most eager eater among the fish and was gaining weight and size.
I did a PP treatment for both of my tank last Sunday.
Procedure:
Feed fish in the morning as usual.
2 hours later, 50% water change, add PP to 5 ppm. ( by mistake ) for 4 hr bath.
2 air line provided in each tank.
After 1.5 hour, all fish normal, add another 2 ppm for good measure ( and this is real good measure ).
Nothing abnormal after 15 minutes and I left home to attend to something else wiht plan to come back after they get the full 4 hr. bath.
Return half an hour later ( total time of bath 3 hrs ) to find that most fish hanging near top of water line gasping for air.
100% water change immediately.
Luckily no fish died, but some fish took more than half and hour to go back to normal breathing.
After that all fish appear normal although a little scared ( as usual after water change ).
6 hours later feed 2nd feeding of the day.
All fish as normal, appitite normal.
One hour later, water change.
During water change ( discharging of water ) I notice a fish swimming abnormally.
It was gliding across the tank like flying saucer and and appear to be struggling and then gasping for air.
As other fish begin to bully it, I decided to put it into a pail together with another fish under treatment for while feaces.
One air line was provided and after a few moment of struggling and gasping for air, it start to settle down at the bottom ( lying flat ).
On and off, it will stuggle to the surface like in pain and after a few moment, fall to the bottom again.
This continued for about 2 hours.
I start to add new water and adjust ph gradually to 6.0 over a period of 1 hour.
I also redose the water with acryflavin ( about 10 drops for 20 litre ) and add salt ( about 1 gram per litre ).
I notice that there is some swelling ( very slight ) at the stomach and decided to add Epsom salt at half tea spoon for 20 litre.
After all this, I notice the fish staying at a fixed spot at the bottom ( erect now ) of the pail for a long time.
I watch it for about 20 minutes and suddenly, it move away and start to struggle for air again.
I notice a patch ( about 10 cent coin ) of dark red things at the spot it used to rest.
When dispersed, I found that it was undigested food.
Red worm from Saturday night's feeding and beef heart from either Sunday morning or evening's feeding.
I suspect other fishes in the main tank may succome to similar problem and added Epsom salt to the other 2 tank as well.
Nothing happen to all the other fish.
But this one died the next morning without further "Lau Sai".
I notice that its stomach was also slightly bloated.

Any suggestion of what went wrong?

Also, one and 2 days after this, fishes in one of the tank ( where the dead fish come from ) have very strange behavior.

At the slightest sound, all fish jolted and jump about ( never happen before ).
Sometime even slight movement gets to dart helter scalter.
Checked, ph, has falled to 5.3 ( normally maintained at 6.3 to 6.8 ) before water change.
I was surprised by this ph drop as I change water 50% ( municipal water ph 7.2 ) every day and add phosphoric acid to adjust to 6.5 after water change if necessary.
I have stop the heater before and after the treatment and due to rainy season, water seems very cold ( sorry no reliable themometer yet ).

Sorry to be so long winded.

Your opinion and suggestion highly appreciated.

Cheers!

BT Lee

[standoyo]

well BT i might just top you, since the boiling incident, one tank has had the plague. thankfully it's not spread to the other tanks.

the toll is 4 albino[3 from TCL], 3 rsg 4 PE, two leopard 5 gl, 1 special golden, 1 glss, 2 SE's. boiling incident involved 12 fishes.
so i'm the champion discus fishballer.
at least 4K which could be nice hardware...

[btlee]

Have you got any luck with David's formular with copper sulphate and PP?
2 of my fishes is still dark and staying in a corner.
Tempted to try out that formular but is a bit uncertain of the dosage as there apppear to be 2 formulation that is very different.

Rgds

BT Lee

[dswwong]

BT,

I cannot claim credit to that formula.....it belongs to u know who !!

If really in doubt, u may call him direct and get some advice lor...Am sure he is too pleased to help.

Good Luck...

[btlee]

Hahaha, of cause I know who came out with that formula.
I must say that I have great respect for that formula based on how Dennis save his skin the other time.
But then again, wihtout proper introduction, shy lah......
Will talk to you about that later.

Cheers!

BT Lee

[standoyo]

it's pretty serious, i suspect columnaris. gonna OTC the fellas.

[min]

hi all,
i normally just use my own "kampung way",so far so good to me n my fishes:
3' tank_1 chinese rice bowl(flat on top)
4' tank_1.5 rice bowl.
he,he my "kampung way"dont blame me if ur fish die.
n e body here ever use methylene blue+salt for quarantin.with this way u will find fishes settle down very fast.