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22-12-2005, 06:16 PM
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that's a good way. but some ppl tend to over do it. me included.
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22-12-2005, 09:52 PM
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hi,what did u mean by over do it?im normally use methylene blue with salt for ard 3,4 day,on these 3-4 day just change ard 20-30% of waterchange n 100% for the last day,then use only salt for the rest of the 2 weeks time.for best result,deworm fishes after few days of the methylene blue treatment.my kampong way,correct me if im wrong.
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23-12-2005, 10:38 AM
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We have had many contributions towards this topic and making this thread very interesting to read and benefiting from various experiences of all the contributors.
I have observed that along the way, some of us have tried to be very technical and precise in our approach towards this subject. Not that there is anything wrong with this approach, IMHO, however, I think we should remain practical and not get off the tangent and get too worked up to be too technical. Remember, these fishes survive in the wild with all sorts of bacterias and viruses for centuries.... By no means I am going to suggest going backwords and not practice what we are already doing. I think we must remain focused and make sure to see the wood for the trees or else we will be buried by this topic getting too technical. KISS ....................Keep It Short and Simple ................... Min has a good point......kampung way is the best way.
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24-12-2005, 12:28 AM
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your way is a very good way. the problem with city folk like me is that we have too many gadgets or too many types of medicine but too little time to take care of their precious. everytime we put medicine we have to look at them closely. many times i just do something and leave them alone. big mistakes. some of my boo boos... put in 1 kg salt in 150 liter tank. kiam wu. realised after a day something not right. 10 fatalities over 2 weeks. deep purple with the PP. quite a few fatalities over a month about 6-8 fatalities. setting heater to 32c. end up with boiled fish to name a few. [found out the heater thermostat is a bit kaput, water was hot to the touch said my dad] 12 fatalities.
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ha!i got fish soup too 3 years ago.after that,i never use heater anymore.i try not use too many med for my discus.do u realise that once u start using a kind of med or equipment,u will never stop using them even when u see fishes with "a bit not comfortable".will u go n see doctor all the time while u feel "a bit not comfortable"?i dont think so.fishes r the same,sometime they only not use to the temperature,ph or something else which they can handle by their own "?????? system",ha ,cant remember what is the word,btw,something like anti body lah.sorry for my poor "ma'glish".hope ppl here can understand.otherwise,i ve type cantonese next time.
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i think you mean the fish immune system will take care of things...
well, we use equipment to improve less than satisfactory conditions/situation. cool weather, bad handling etc. bla bla bla. don't wanna relive my mistakes more than once merry x'masss urp!
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shy and scared discus
Hi everybody,
this is my first posting. I have got 6 discus from a Toronto Area local breeder almost 10 days ago. Nice fish...except they are extremely shy. They get scared of my move in the room. And they smash themselves to the glass or whatever comes to their escape route  I have 65 Gallon BB tank with 6-7 sword plants in pots. I also have two clown loaches. I have the fist first in my 30 Gal tank for 2-3 days and they were less scared. even my clowns are more shy in the new tank. I have no clue why. Discus eat ok but not too enthusiastic about the food unless I give blood worms. I change 30-40% every 3 days as per the breeders recommendation. I thought I can get some info from the experinced people on this form. I am thinking maybe some smaller tetras may relax them but I rather keep the tank discus only. thank for your help. FE
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05-01-2006, 11:48 AM
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hi ferdinc,
shy fish are indication that the fish is uncomfortable in new environment. eg are lighting too bright. a lot of people passing by. too many shadows. give it time to adjust. in the mean time you have keep the water clean. some breeders over here feed up to 7 times and change the water as many times each day. this is because they don't have a filtration system. they rely on water changes to take out the fish waste. loaches can be annoying to discus as they are nippy... your setup sounds somewhere in between the extremes of planted[cycled tank-mature filtration] and not planted[breeder type setup with no filtration]. if you plan to keep discus successfully you will need a spare tank. this tank is for quarantine/breeding etc. 6 discus is on the high side for a 65g planted but still ok. just have to be vigilant with the vacuuming. warmest regards stan
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05-01-2006, 09:45 PM
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shy discus
Thank you very much Stan. The breeder told me it would take a week to see the fish swimming around. Esspecialy if there are places to hide. It has been more than a week and they are still shy when there is movement around the tank, or shadows as you mentioned.
Do you have any idea how long it usually takes fish to adjust the environment? would some small fish -like cradinal or rummynose- help dicus to feel more secure?? By the way, how can I find the book "the naked Truth: Discus" book in N. america? Itis not in amazon.com database. Is there any books Andrew Soh may recommend as an alternative to his book? Thanks , Regards FE
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hi ferdinc,
his book unfortunately is the most up to date book around. most of the good ones were written before 2000! Penang Diskus Diskus by Shaifullah Yeng is also very good... In NA Ryan Kurcher is Andrew's contact. know him? otherwise contact Andrew directly via PM at DPH. http://forum.discusnews.com/discus-s...pic.php?t=5537 or http://forum.discusnews.com/discus-s...pic.php?t=6047 HTH stan
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