What Did U Buy?

[min]

hi all
read quite a few wrong post of strain in some forums' gallery or sale section.for exampleenang eruption for sale(with spotted snake pic)my humble tiger(with checker pic).what causes these things happen all the time?for what i think is breeder or hobyist sell their fish while fishes r too young n those people actually bought the throwbacks.
i personally think that discus r not suitable to sell while too young especially spotted fish.these strains r having quite a number of throwbacks which should be culled off when they reach to certain size.false selling may cause dissapointment for buyer especially beginer n yet it will spoil the name of breeder as well.it is also some wrong post of sale like; 1" lss for cheap sale,5 cents size super melon for sale.beginers bought them n found out only after 1 or 2 year trying to show off their fishes in the forum.how will they feel?what can they do?i myself were having the same experiance while i started this business n found out fishes were not what i want after sometime.i knew nothing while i bought the fishes with a so call expert friend help.so,who to be blamed?breeder,my friend or myself?
what im trying to say is,wasting of money might not be a big problem,but the time,the efforts that ve been paid r the biggest lost n the dissapointments may cause a person to quit the hobby.

pool in english,rich in thought (ke-po)
forrest

[standoyo]

well they are paying to learn...how to separate the BS[brineshrimp]

and obviously having a bunch of siao kakis to help you choose the right fish helps a lot. just ask BT.

[tropic wonder]

Agreed with Stan, join a group of hobbyists will cut short your learning curve and make your interest more interesting ...

[jack]

Agreed that there is no way to tell a fish when it is 50 cents size.

I still recall the definition of a "strain", it at least required a certain percentage of true breeding. Thus I am not certain that we can call a fish a new strain if there there is only 40% or less of true breeding and the rest are hybrid that cannot be name......

I truly urge all to stop naming a new strain until we had at least a F2 with 80% tru breeding..

In this case we will be able to "gurantee" the buyer what he is paying for...

and all problem will be solved..right???

[standoyo]

agree, however exception are some light colour breeds are easier to achieve by breeding intermediates.

eg.
two intermediate albinos breeding will produce 25% albinos 25% without albino genes and 50% albino intermediates.

reason to breed albino intermediates are that albino parents cannot darken their bodies to attract the fries to stick onto them to feed off their body mucus.
so a lesser percentage will survive if you breed two pure albinos.

there is also the importance of strenghtening the gene pool by outcrossing with wild fish...this results in a lot of intermediates again...which is dumped into the local market...