Anyone interested in Japanese Ranchu?

[cplng]

There's the Chinese Ranchu and then there's the Japanese Ranchu.
There's the mass production Ranchu and there's the pedigree one.
There's the cheap one and there's the high priced one.

But there's no in-between. A pedigree outside of Japan that is affordable to many.

I think that summarises the plight of many would be Ranchu lovers in the Asia Pac region, or maybe worldwide.

Honestly, price is a barrier, and Ranchus are not easy pets, provided that there's lots of education material and information available (look at how Koi is marketed). I think forming a SIG (Special Interest Group) is a great idea. Kudos!

These are beautiful fishes, and it would be great if we can produce pedigree Ranchu here in Malaysia, to promote the hobby.

cheers.

[yeemiau]

Originally Posted by LTO

Hi yeemiau, pardon me for my newbie question, is japanese ranchu refering to top view ranchu?
I would like to learn more about this but I think the major problem is the price and where to get them. Don't really see them around in local lfs.

Hi LTO,

Currently, Ranchu is judged from top viewing in Japan. If any changes in the future, we can't tell but definitely will update everyone in the forum if there's news about that. For some reason, people outside Japan started branding them "top view Ranchu" and comes "side view ranchu"...I guess that is solely for marketing purposes by breeders and fish traders. For hardcore people like us, we only recognize Ranchu and no others, and, it is judged from the top.

The price and availability factor is a major concern for many people who wanna get into the game. My group is trying to break that barrier and so far so good (after 2 years).

As you can see in the threads that we are getting eggs from our sensei in yearly basis and many members of this forum has got some of them from us. So, it makes the whole thing "extremely affordable" comparing if you buying it from traders and shops. I'd say we have smash the price to 10% of what it is worth in the market. Commercial people has been cursing us for doing so but we don't care what they say cos all we want is Ranchu players. To find more Ranchu hobbyist and create a strong community in Malaysia's Ranchu hobbyist. The price we set is mainly for us to recover our cost and WITHOUT any profit... we might be making a loss. But who cares? We are glad to see we have form a very good group of people in Malaysia who is entering the world of Ranchu. They are working hard and sacrificing their time and putting much effort to groom beautiful Ranchus. They precious the Ranchu they get as if they've paid thousands for it. When you can witness this, I bet money will be a secondary issue already. And, we feel proud of what we have done..... There's not only I doing all the work, there're many people, new and old members, behind the scene and outside the forum who has also put tons of effort to make it happen. They have put much effort to promote Ranchu to people.

And, YES, you are right that you hardly see Ranchu in fish shop cos it is suppose to be a seasonal thing. Japanese only breed their fish once a year. Normally, babies are available eithe rin March or April.... maybe May too... But, adult fish is always around.


Cheers.

[small_ranchu]

You guys are doing very impressive job!!! I wish we can do this in US as well.

[Titus]

Originally Posted by NaganoLiewKun

Hi Titus!

Welcome!!!work hard &work together pls.
actually we have a very close bros.in Singapore also,Allow me to introduce my bros.to you if you want!

I like the phrase " work together", totally agree. Sometimes too much politics gets in the way of passion for the hobby.

It would be great if you can introudce me to them Cheers!

[chochiss]

Finally some posts here. Ranchu saved the day man......

Btw,

Why this forum suddenly so so quiet want ar?

[LTO]

Originally Posted by yeemiau

Hi LTO,

Currently, Ranchu is judged from top viewing in Japan. If any changes in the future, we can't tell but definitely will update everyone in the forum if there's news about that. For some reason, people outside Japan started branding them "top view Ranchu" and comes "side view ranchu"...I guess that is solely for marketing purposes by breeders and fish traders. For hardcore people like us, we only recognize Ranchu and no others, and, it is judged from the top.

The price and availability factor is a major concern for many people who wanna get into the game. My group is trying to break that barrier and so far so good (after 2 years).

As you can see in the threads that we are getting eggs from our sensei in yearly basis and many members of this forum has got some of them from us. So, it makes the whole thing "extremely affordable" comparing if you buying it from traders and shops. I'd say we have smash the price to 10% of what it is worth in the market. Commercial people has been cursing us for doing so but we don't care what they say cos all we want is Ranchu players. To find more Ranchu hobbyist and create a strong community in Malaysia's Ranchu hobbyist. The price we set is mainly for us to recover our cost and WITHOUT any profit... we might be making a loss. But who cares? We are glad to see we have form a very good group of people in Malaysia who is entering the world of Ranchu. They are working hard and sacrificing their time and putting much effort to groom beautiful Ranchus. They precious the Ranchu they get as if they've paid thousands for it. When you can witness this, I bet money will be a secondary issue already. And, we feel proud of what we have done..... There's not only I doing all the work, there're many people, new and old members, behind the scene and outside the forum who has also put tons of effort to make it happen. They have put much effort to promote Ranchu to people.

And, YES, you are right that you hardly see Ranchu in fish shop cos it is suppose to be a seasonal thing. Japanese only breed their fish once a year. Normally, babies are available eithe rin March or April.... maybe May too... But, adult fish is always around.


Cheers.

Thanks Yeemiau. I don't really have much space. But If i wanna give it a try with just a few fishes, what is the smallest size tank I can go?

[yeemiau]

Originally Posted by LTO

Thanks Yeemiau. I don't really have much space. But If i wanna give it a try with just a few fishes, what is the smallest size tank I can go?

Hi LTO,

The minimum space required is 1 meter square (around 3 feet x 3 feet) of tub will do. BUT when the fish grows bigger, they need more space.

I have a link here and you can take it as your reference. You'll need an online translation page to translate the Japanese. (being it's google, alta vista, wordlingo, etc.)

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Since our technique does not use filter at all and does 100% water change. When fish density is high, means water quality is more difficult to control thus illness. Therefore, you need to plan based on adult fish when you get juvenile fish. Or else, you'll end up keep adding tub and never seems enough of space.

As normally, Japanese will recommend you to use 2 meter square tubs.

Max water depth is around 15-18cm. So, you don't need something deep and expensive.

Also, you need not to fix and get a tub specialized for goldfish/any fish....... CR is using plastic drawers that he got from IKEA. Some Japanese uses Tub for concrete mixing use. So, it is not necessary to get from fish shop, it is available all around you and as long as it has no sharp edges inside and easy to handle and clean. Of cos, it need to be in some logical shape too (not star shape pls) So, Ranchu keeping is some very flexible and economical hobby and not like what've been branded expensive hobby by fish shops.

Enjoy!



BTW, Hi, small ranchu,
I heard there's a company "Neo-Ranchu" in America specialized in importing Japanese Ranchu. Do you know if they are still around?


Cheers.

[ranchuminion]

Hi everyone

I stumbled upon this forum recently and I was extremely excited to know that there are people around KL/PJ area keeping Japanese Ranchu.

I am a big fan of this and I have a concrete pond with about 12'(L)x3'(W)x2'(D). I am interested in raising them from juvenile. Can anyone point me to the right source?

Thanks

P.S. Been keeping some TVR's for about 2 months now. Enjoyed that as well but my ultimate aim is still Japanese Ranchu.

[Pilik-Palak]

Originally Posted by ranchuminion

Hi everyone

I stumbled upon this forum recently and I was extremely excited to know that there are people around KL/PJ area keeping Japanese Ranchu.

I am a big fan of this and I have a concrete pond with about 12'(L)x3'(W)x2'(D). I am interested in raising them from juvenile. Can anyone point me to the right source?

Thanks

P.S. Been keeping some TVR's for about 2 months now. Enjoyed that as well but my ultimate aim is still Japanese Ranchu.

Hello ranchuminion,

Hope can meet u in TT section /gathering in PJ.There is a weekly friday night
ranchu Gathering section in PJ old town.Do send me pm if u intrested.Cheers.

[Titus]

Been a long time since I post here. Here goes:

This is a Kashino from my very first batch of BBRs in early 2007.

Now only left this fella. Pity it had a long spell of gill flukes and had to treat for very long. Afraid it is a little stunt, very small for its age.

Before in mid 2007:


On 19 Jan 2008: