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Old 10-08-2006, 11:36 AM
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Yee Miau Sensei,

Thank you for your fast response.

Best regards.

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Old 11-08-2006, 09:54 AM
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Hi Lam,

Had adjusted the water depth to 4". Had begin feeding yesterday. Using Masu and current feeding schedule 7am,9am and 11am. The water is smelly and lot of bubbles on the sides of water surface. However, the ranchus are active and eating well this morning. Need your advice, thanks.


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Old 11-08-2006, 01:39 PM
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Hi Lam,

Had adjusted the water depth to 4". Had begin feeding yesterday. Using Masu and current feeding schedule 7am,9am and 11am. The water is smelly and lot of bubbles on the sides of water surface. However, the ranchus are active and eating well this morning. Need your advice, thanks.
How long is the water been in the tub. I suspect the water been aged for too long. It's ok, maybe you can arrange water change tomorrow. If you place it indoor, if day 5-7. Greenwater does not come, maybe you need to add lighting. Use those tube for planted tanks. It'll help a lot.

You feeding time is ok but you can add another on at 5am. Don't worry, even if we human asleep, those fella already awake. 3 click is ok.

Please let me know the progress. Thanks

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Old 11-08-2006, 04:37 PM
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How long is the water been in the tub. I suspect the water been aged for too long. It's ok, maybe you can arrange water change tomorrow. If you place it indoor, if day 5-7. Greenwater does not come, maybe you need to add lighting. Use those tube for planted tanks. It'll help a lot.

You feeding time is ok but you can add another on at 5am. Don't worry, even if we human asleep, those fella already awake. 3 click is ok.

Please let me know the progress. Thanks

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It's been 2 days since i changed the water on this wed. Water taken from the indoor pond which is already 1 week (last changed on 4 Aug). Is the water been aged too long? What is the correct aging period?
The small blue tub is still placed indoor. Will try to locate a place outdoor for it. If no, will go for planted lighting tube. Thanks for the tip.
Ok, will add another on at 5am.
Will continue update for the progress. Thanks

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Old 11-08-2006, 06:43 PM
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It's been 2 days since i changed the water on this wed. Water taken from the indoor pond which is already 1 week (last changed on 4 Aug). Is the water been aged too long? What is the correct aging period?
The small blue tub is still placed indoor. Will try to locate a place outdoor for it. If no, will go for planted lighting tube. Thanks for the tip.
Ok, will add another on at 5am.
Will continue update for the progress. Thanks
Best is water 1-2 days old. 1 week already too long. No wonder got smell so soon.

thanks for the update, look forward for your next update.

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Old 12-08-2006, 03:37 PM
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It's been 2 days since i changed the water on this wed. Water taken from the indoor pond which is already 1 week (last changed on 4 Aug). Is the water been aged too long? What is the correct aging period?
The small blue tub is still placed indoor. Will try to locate a place outdoor for it. If no, will go for planted lighting tube. Thanks for the tip.
Ok, will add another on at 5am.
Will continue update for the progress. Thanks

Ho, 4 days old water will create bacteria, pls be alert. Maximum 3 days old water is good enough. 1 week once to wash the storage tank is the better way to maintain the water quality.
* My sensei taugh me this way and i'm follow doing it. Those ranchu bleeder in japan is doing the same way as well.

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Yes, and thanks to LiewKun to point out the missing points. You see, a sensei will not miss these details. In fact the person who shown in the picture is the person who breeds our Ranchus; Our great Ranchu teacher!

And, I hope you all don't get offended, please don't address me as sensei cos I'm not even close to that level. The person in the picture is the true sensei, our teacher. It took us almost 9 months to search inside www.ranchu.net to find out how he looks like. It is well hidden; well, just browse thru it and try if you can find the one and only picture showing his face. Along the way, you'll learn a lot about Ranchu grooming skills while browsing thru. Have fun!

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Yes, and thanks to LiewKun to point out the missing points. You see, a sensei will not miss these details. In fact the person who shown in the picture is the person who breeds our Ranchus; Our great Ranchu teacher!

And, I hope you all don't get offended, please don't address me as sensei cos I'm not even close to that level. The person in the picture is the true sensei, our teacher. It took us almost 9 months to search inside www.ranchu.net to find out how he looks like. It is well hidden; well, just browse thru it and try if you can find the one and only picture showing his face. Along the way, you'll learn a lot about Ranchu grooming skills while browsing thru. Have fun!

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Bro yeemiau,
For us U and Vincent is our sensei,but the japan ones is ur Sensei .For us ,He's our Grand Sensei/Master Sensei.Since He guide U to guide us,so there is nothing wrong calling u and Vincent, sensei. We all recieved guide line from u so hope we can do the calling.
I don't think the Master sensei will angry with us ....cheers.

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Hi Vincent, Lam

Thank you very much for water aging lesson. Always have the wrong idea that water should be aged longer. Will keep in mind thay 3 days are maximum for water aging. What is the best way to clear the chlorine? Sunshine, heavy aeration using air pump or water pump, or any other ways. About the temperature shock, how to prevent it when doing water change? Sorry for asking these questions. They may already been explained during my visit. Just need to refresh my mind. Thanks.

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Hi Vincent, Lam

Thank you very much for water aging lesson. Always have the wrong idea that water should be aged longer. Will keep in mind thay 3 days are maximum for water aging. What is the best way to clear the chlorine? Sunshine, heavy aeration using air pump or water pump, or any other ways. About the temperature shock, how to prevent it when doing water change? Sorry for asking these questions. They may already been explained during my visit. Just need to refresh my mind. Thanks.
No problem, we always welcome questions. As we answer, others can refresh theirs too. Heavy aeration and sunlight is the best and most effective way to get rid of the chlorine. If at places with less sunlight, may take longer to evaporate. So, only thing you need to do is to select one suitable place which suits you and try to store water there. Check chlorine day and night to see approximately how long it'll take to evaporate. Take that as rule of thumb and add a little safety factor. So, in the future, you can plan your water storage and water change date. So, a little bit of work now and later will be very easy.

As for the temperature shock issue. Our common practice is using a Metal/Stainless steel basin (Any colour will do) to scoop some old water from the tank. Pick the fish up from the tank and place them in the basin. Then, move the basin to some place where it won't distract you as you clean the tank. After you've filled up new water into the tank. Gently place the basin with fish in the new water. Try not to spilll the old water into the new ones. Just leave the basin there floating for 10-15 minutes. If the basin is small, try aerate it. Some part here, you need to adjust a little by yourself depending on your environment. Try to feel the water temp in the basin and the new water, to check if the temperature both side is the same; better if use thermometer. If it is not matching, let it float there for a longer period until the temp matches. Eventually, all you need to do is scoop the fish out from the basin and gently place them in the new water. Remember to soak you hand in the water for 10-20 seconds to cool your skin a little before grabbing the fish. So, when you grab the fish, they won't get a certain shock from your hand. after you've cleared the fish from the basin, throw the old water away. (for some who wanna express green water, which is not at this stage, pour a little old water back to the tank to assist the process)

For some understanding. When you are holding your fish, they jumps a lot. Why? OK, when you are holding ANY fish, you can feel their body is cold, isit? The other way round, they can feel your hand is BURNING them. That's why they jumps. Specially when you've done a lots of "exercise" cleaning the tank and changing water, our blood circulation went faster and hands get warmer. That's why some people only use special made nets to catch fish. (shown in following pics). But if you use hand to interact with them, your hand won't become a stranger to them. after they got used to it, they won't feel stress when you catch them with your hand.

till then, have fun! Cheers.

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