Japanese Ranchu came to Malaysia in EGG form

[yeemiau]

Hi guys, sorry for MIA for so long, can't spend much time here due to heavy work load.

Sometimes, we need to compromise the size and head to strike the balance of the fish. Some may notice, some fish's head development is good but lack in progress in body and some the other way round. For example, I have 50 bucks, i'll spend 40 on drinks and 10 on food. So, naturally, i'll go wee wee more then i go poo poo. (sorry, i think this example sucks but i guess it makes some sense, hope so.) As a result, they only have certain quota of development "points". Some divert more on the body and some on the head. The divertion of development is based on the environment we simulated. Eg. carpet algea, green water, clear water, space, etc. On the other hand, it is important to strike the most "development points" for those little fella to utilise; that's DIGESTION. How we feed, when we feed, amount of feed, etc. plays a big picture. It's not always large quantity is always good but give them enough time to digest. (Again, for a reference, pallet takes 2 hours and bloodworm 1 hour to digest)

So, basically, the whole trick of this game is to strike a good balance. For ChinaRyukin and Bonzi's case, head development is priority, so, carpet algea (most important) and green water is essential. For Ryan and EzieG, as you guys has already noticed and started boosting the feeding; the size/belly will come. For others, I might need some most recent pic to give comment. For those already posted pic yet I missed out, please kick my butt a little. I might tend to miss out someone.

Remember, Boosting the belly and size is only for the time being, until the fish grows bigger (for this,keep sending photos and we can discuss along the way), we have to slow down a little. It doesn't mean reduce feeding but maintain feeding amount (as the fish grows bigger, by maintaining same amount, it is naturally reduce; in the sense of feed amount and fish size ratio). In the future, you might notice the fish swimming is getting sluggish, that's the time you'll need to pay attention to the feeding amount; it may need to reduce if such case happens. Or the poop shows sign of indigestion. Also, development of tail also effects the swimming. Therefore, it may give you certain illusion that its' swimming is sluggish. So, we need to judge if the fish's swimming sluggish is due to tail or being too fat. Most of the time, clear water will tune back the sluggish swimming for those fish with minor tail problem and adjusting feeding amount will help the fat ones.

The whole thing is just based on a few rules of thumb. The manupilation of it will give endless posibilities.

Few basics for the now and future(refreshing memories)
- carpet algea and green water promotes head development. Reduces exercise rate. Stiffen tail bones. Finer scale structure. SWIM LESS
- Clear water promotes exercises. Development shift to body. Coarse or irregular scale structure. Soften tail bones. SWIM MORE
- Water change 4-7 days depending on water condition. It will varies from one person to the other due to feeding technique, space, amount of food, etc. Fish will be more active (exercise) during new water stage and swim less on later stage. So, duration of water change also can control the scale, body, tail development. therefore, to control the exercise rate, one technique can replace with another. But, of cos, we have to change the water when it becomes bad so most of the case, feeding technique will determine the water condition and duration.
- Feeding, stop feeding on the water change day. If you change water in the evening, stop feeding for the next day. Helps them to clear out whatever left in side, strengthen their digestion system and, most of all, avoid sickness. We can start this practise from now onwards for a few months; at this stage. When the fish grows bigger and stronger, we can start feeding them again 2-3 hours after water change provided good observation that the fish is active and healthy.

[yeemiau]

EzieG,

For your fish, I also observe the tail is "dropping". Means you need to strengthen the tail bone. So, let's analyse why this happens.

The tail bone soften is due to many exercise (main reason). Why they swims a lot. The possibilities list as follows:

1) hungry, so swim around to seek for food.
2) water condition excites them and promotes swimming too.
3) There's no place that gives them security therefore swims everywhere. (new topic). Also, the surrounding environment factor.
4) Space.
5) Location of carpet algea.
6) Other things i might have over looked.

Maybe the effect is due to few factor mention above or just one.

OK, let's solve the problems one by one....

1) you have already taken action by adding feed amount.

2) if you keep the water schedule on 7 days. This shouldn't be the factor that effects so much.

3) Sometimes, fish need some sort of sense of security, a shade of something. I understand from reading ChinaRyukin's post that you have placed your tank out door and enjoying good sunlight. If you place a piece of wood on top of the tank, they will spend most of the time under the shade (fish's nature). Therefore, the size of the shade will be best to reduce their swimming distance and amount. It's not physically confine them in one small area but phycologically.

4) For this stage, 1 meter square fits 15 fishes as average. Later 10 per meter . Requirement of space increases as they grow. Until 5-6 per meter square.

5) As you've seen how we clean our carpet algea on mine or naganoliewkun's post. clean half and leave the other have for next cleaning; as rotation. (Clean the wall everytime you do water change) This will lessen their swimming activity as they won't swim to the other side of the tank to find carpet algea to nibble.

6) A pic showing your fish tank surrounding environment tells better story.


NaganoLiewKun,
please give your comment too.

[EzieG]

ok, Brother Yeemiau... all the constructive comments are noted, will do the neccessity... FYI, the rest of the tail of babies are strong enough and open widely except the one u have commented... i just like this piece's head development...

i did put shade but is at 45 degree (tilt)... i will get something to put on the top of the tub...

[yeemiau]

Originally Posted by EzieG

ok, Brother Yeemiau... all the constructive comments are noted, will do the neccessity... FYI, the rest of the tail of babies are strong enough and open widely except the one u have commented... i just like this piece's head development...

i did put shade but is at 45 degree (tilt)... i will get something to put on the top of the tub...

If that's the case, it is best to judge what to do best suited to your favorite few fish and the rest follows. Cos if you do somehting to recover less favorite fish and you might interfere better ones to develop. So, need to consider this point too.

Cheers.

[EzieG]

i think i will put shade on the tub, this is the better idea and why not give it a try and see what is the results next...

[ho0406]

Hi there,
Pls comment. Thanks and best regards.

[chinaryukin]

Hi Ho,

Your babies look nice and healthy.
But same as mine, i think they need more carpet algae to promote head & wen growth.

Keep the good work. Cheers

[chinaryukin]

Here are some photos taken this morning before water change.
You can see few of them got blood streak on the tail, I don't realise it until i see it on the photo when i downloading it this monring.

So quickly, i do water change.
Yeemiau, should i put medication for the problem? So far i only move them to the other tank, while waiting the main tank ready tomorrow. Lucky me for could not joining P'Palak, he left me waiting...they went for ipoh farm visit without me (Poor me). I hope P'Plak can share with all of us on their visit/trip today.

I'm still working on carpet algae and cultivating green water. About 30% of the tank floor is covered with algae (i'm giving 2 lighting). Should i put more ligthing? please can somebody recomment a powerful but reasonable cheap system!!!! How about DIY metal halide, is it good for our korukos?

Please advice and comment.
Cheers,

[chinaryukin]

Yeemiau,
1 of my babies (the biggest one) is abit slack on it's tail. Actualy i notice this since the first day i got them.
Can you or Vincent or our sensei give advice what should i do to try work on it's tail.

Here are some photos of the fella:
It also got blood streak on it's tail.

Thanking you guys in advance, Cheers.

[chinaryukin]

Update photos for few more babies;