Japanese Ranchu came to Malaysia in EGG form

[ho0406]

Hi chinaryukin,

Your baby ranchus look very nice. I can't keep my eye away from them.
Want to know why the blood streak appeared on the tails. Hopes it will not harm to the baby ranchus. Praying....

U too keep up the good job.

[yeemiau]

ChinaRyukin,

Pilik-Palak's trip to Ipoh been cut short due to bad weather also they didn't go to any farm. Just some casual chit-chat at my place.

Anyway, for your fish, as you've been pushing the size by heavy feeding, this is something can't be avoid and it is very common. We had some problem like this too and more serious. We called up Japan ask asked for advise. The feedback is something quite "pleasing". Sensei said, " If you are not pushing the fish, the problem won't come. Most of the people have the same problem too. If you want nice fish, you MUST push at this stage. Therefore, solve the problem and push again!" . In another words, we are doing the right thing and on the right track.

For your problem, it is pretty simple on this case. This is mainly due to dirty water. It doesn't mean you need to alter or shorten water change schedule. Resume as usual. After water change, for mild problems, like yours, the red stuff should disappear in 2-3 days. If it is still there after that, use 0.5% salinity water to quarantine them 24 hours. This should solve everything. Also, we are facing some sudden weather change here; not sure about KL but Ipoh is quite bad. Especially long period of rainy days might bring out all sort problems. Therefore, pull a little "hand brake" on feeding if the weather is really bad; hot and cold fluctuation. This is for pre-caution measure to aviod gill problems.


Information below has got nothing to do with whatever above mentioned. Absolutely not related. Just for your info and knowledge for future reference.

There are around 9 types of gill sickness/fluke. Some very nasty and some more "friendly". So, at the rate we are pushing the fish, we are dancing on a fine line. Sooner or later, I'd say most of the people's fish somehow will come across with gill problem if pushing too hard; And, bloodworm will bring parasites. So, standing by a small amount of formalin will be good for pre-caution. If salt can't kill those nasty flukes/parasites, formalin will do the job 90% of the time. Except for some immune to formalin, masoten (mostly used by koi experts) or other chemical/medicine can be use depending on what the problem is; it only pin point to a few particular parasites.

Formalin is something very nasty and definately keep out of reach from children and inhaling it. Handling of it has to be very very careful. It is banned in some country for aquaculture industry. I've heard people been dipping slaughtered fish/chicken into diluted formalin to keep it look fresh and selling it in wet market. Maybe, that's why sometime you might possibly notice there's no flies hanging around the dead fish/chicken. It is also used by those funeral parlour people; injecting it into dead bodies to delay the rotting process. Till now, it sounds pretty scary isn't it? BUT, if you use it in a controlled environment, i think it is safe. This is an advanced topic for hobbist, if you feel unsure on this. Either not to use it and seek alternate soultion or ask more questions and do more research before you proceed with this technique.

The dosage we used are 2.5ml formalin for 100L water or 1ml for 10 L water for dipping purpose.

VERY IMPORTANT! FORMALIN + SALT = TOXIC. If your fish is soaked in salt water. You need to house them in new fresh water for 24 hour before any formalin treatment; for safety purpose. Few years ago, I was an idiot to add salt with formalin. Result = Total Lost!

P/S,
I still owe someone explaination on salt usage and theory behind it. Sorry. Will come soon.

[yeemiau]

Another useful tips,

For some of us, we still uses hypo crystals to get rid of chlorine in new water. It will also cancel out certain amount chemical composition or medicine. Therefore, if we uses hypo crystal, no matter how accurate your dosage or medicine for fish's treatment added into the water, it'll be a waste. In other words, no matter how accurate your medicine's dosage added in, some how the hypo crystal will nutralise a certain amount or all of it. So, treatment will be very difficult due to inaccurate dosage.

[ho0406]

Originally Posted by yeemiau

ChinaRyukin,

Pilik-Palak's trip to Ipoh been cut short due to bad weather also they didn't go to any farm. Just some casual chit-chat at my place.

Anyway, for your fish, as you've been pushing the size by heavy feeding, this is something can't be avoid and it is very common. We had some problem like this too and more serious. We called up Japan ask asked for advise. The feedback is something quite "pleasing". Sensei said, " If you are not pushing the fish, the problem won't come. Most of the people have the same problem too. If you want nice fish, you MUST push at this stage. Therefore, solve the problem and push again!" . In another words, we are doing the right thing and on the right track.

For your problem, it is pretty simple on this case. This is mainly due to dirty water. It doesn't mean you need to alter or shorten water change schedule. Resume as usual. After water change, for mild problems, like yours, the red stuff should disappear in 2-3 days. If it is still there after that, use 0.5% salinity water to quarantine them 24 hours. This should solve everything. Also, we are facing some sudden weather change here; not sure about KL but Ipoh is quite bad. Especially long period of rainy days might bring out all sort problems. Therefore, pull a little "hand brake" on feeding if the weather is really bad; hot and cold fluctuation. This is for pre-caution measure to aviod gill problems.


Information below has got nothing to do with whatever above mentioned. Absolutely not related. Just for your info and knowledge for future reference.

There are around 9 types of gill sickness/fluke. Some very nasty and some more "friendly". So, at the rate we are pushing the fish, we are dancing on a fine line. Sooner or later, I'd say most of the people's fish somehow will come across with gill problem if pushing too hard; And, bloodworm will bring parasites. So, standing by a small amount of formalin will be good for pre-caution. If salt can't kill those nasty flukes/parasites, formalin will do the job 90% of the time. Except for some immune to formalin, masoten (mostly used by koi experts) or other chemical/medicine can be use depending on what the problem is; it only pin point to a few particular parasites.

Formalin is something very nasty and definately keep out of reach from children and inhaling it. Handling of it has to be very very careful. It is banned in some country for aquaculture industry. I've heard people been dipping slaughtered fish/chicken into diluted formalin to keep it look fresh and selling it in wet market. Maybe, that's why sometime you might possibly notice there's no flies hanging around the dead fish/chicken. It is also used by those funeral parlour people; injecting it into dead bodies to delay the rotting process. Till now, it sounds pretty scary isn't it? BUT, if you use it in a controlled environment, i think it is safe. This is an advanced topic for hobbist, if you feel unsure on this. Either not to use it and seek alternate soultion or ask more questions and do more research before you proceed with this technique.

The dosage we used are 2.5ml formalin for 100L water or 1ml for 10 L water for dipping purpose.

VERY IMPORTANT! FORMALIN + SALT = TOXIC. If your fish is soaked in salt water. You need to house them in new fresh water for 24 hour before any formalin treatment; for safety purpose. Few years ago, I was an idiot to add salt with formalin. Result = Total Lost!

P/S,
I still owe someone explaination on salt usage and theory behind it. Sorry. Will come soon.

Hi Lam,
Thanks for this formalin tip. However, how do we detect gill fluke and the symptons? Pls take your time. No worries.

[yeemiau]

Masu and Ayu just arrived today. Anyone who wants to order, please message me regarding the postage charges with the address. I'll check with poslaju (if you want it fast) and normal post charges.

Cheers.

[Ryan]

Dear Guys,

Please find update of my fish as per 9th Sept.

Please comment.

[Ryan]

Another 2pics update

[ho0406]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Another 2pics update

Hi Ryan,
Your ranchus look bigger now. Their bodies are more even now. All of them have nice and bright color. Thanks for the posting. They are good guides for me.

Mine ranchus still look tiny compared to yours. Color not that bright. They seem to have 'huge' backs with smaller tummies. I will change the water tomorrow. Will also post up the update. Btw could you show us your ranchus' side view? Thanks and best regards.

[ho0406]

Hi there,
These are my ranchus. Just did water change. Suppose tomorrow but water is too green. The ranchus are kept 5 days in green water last week. Any comments are most welcomed.

[Ryan]

Hi Ho,

Thanks for your comment. My fish actually grow a slightly only, only that
I zoom in more with my camera, he! he!.
The colour is shiny because the aquarium is directly under the sun but I have shades for them.

Your ranchu has grown as well. I can see the headgrowth is substantial
when compared to your previous pics. Green water has helped in the development. When you say that the green water is too green, could you still
see your fish ( i mean at least the bayang bayang of the fish at 4" deep).

My only problem now is that I have 10 ranchus, some has nice body growth but headgrowth is slower, some has nice headgrowth but body growth is not as good. Therefore, it is difficult to adjust the condition (meaning the food, whether to use green water or clear water...etc).

Yee Miau,
Any comment on the last paragraph, does it mean that I will eventually have to sacrifice other fish and focus on the few better ones?