Dirty Water

[blaze88]

I am for one really. really proud of you. Alot of people don't care that much about goldfish. I have a similar story of my 5 gf in a 10 gallon and I saved up for an 80, until they get huge and I sell them.

You rock my socks.

Still until you get a new tank get melafix.

60 gallon should be fine for a very longtime, Omce your fish get to big for that they should be sellable to a pond store. FOr about $50 each! Or 50 pounds (i know thats not the conversion rate for $-pounds, but the price is about the same for most things in the UK as in the US even though the UK money is twice as much.)

I really truely love your devotion to your animals. Thank you, they would say if they could.

Here are some more tips...

For your new tank get an aquaclear side filter.
DOn't get a "60 gallon" bubbler. The 10 gallon works the same, I use a 20 for my 80 and everything is fine.
Goldfish food isn't as good for goldfish as koi food is. Find some extreamly small pellated koi food that your goldfish can fit in their mouths.
Live plants eliminate some nitrates.

Anywho I just thought those tips would help.

[x-Lucy-Fish-x]

wow yeah, that sounds great!

You need a filter that will pump 10x the gallonage of the tank per hour.. so one that says 600GPH on it, or something like that.
You cant use a filter for a ten gallon tank on a sixty gallon tank! Theres no way it would be efficient, especially with two fully grown goldfish in!

[Limeyron]

Originally Posted by blaze88

I am for one really. really proud of you. Alot of people don't care that much about goldfish. I have a similar story of my 5 gf in a 10 gallon and I saved up for an 80, until they get huge and I sell them.

You rock my socks.......
.......I really truely love your devotion to your animals. Thank you, they would say if they could.

Thanks. I believe that if your gonna have a pet, no matter how small, you should do everything properly and give them the best life possible so they're happy.

My second filter arrived today and it works great. It cycles 53 gallons per hour, so with my 103 GPH filter, I'm cycling 156 GPH which is good for a 10 gallon tank.

Funny you should mention Melafix. I just ordered some about 20 minutes ago and I'm thinking about getting some live plants too. I think my little guys will eat them though but I'll see what happens. Don't live plants use the dissolved oxygen when it gets dark?

Thank both of you for the advice. I'm gonna try them on Koi food for a while and see what happens now you've mentioned it

[blaze88]

No the live plants gove Disolved O2 durring the day, but not the night. If you EVER have ANY questions please feal free to email me. I agree with you, if you are going to have a pet do it right.

I think I am trying to repent for all the animals I didn't know how to take care of in my past...

[Limeyron]

Originally Posted by blaze88

No the live plants gove Disolved O2 durring the day, but not the night. If you EVER have ANY questions please feal free to email me. I agree with you, if you are going to have a pet do it right.

I think I am trying to repent for all the animals I didn't know how to take care of in my past...

I knew it was something like that. So there's no real negative effect that a live plant would have on a tank then? I mean apart from getting munched by the fish.
Thanks. It's nice to know there's someone I can go to directly if I need advise.

I know how you feel about losing pets in the past. When I lost my 3 other goldies I was left practically distraught with guilt. There was so much I could have done to keep them alive but either didn't know about it or didn't have to cash to do anything.

[x-Lucy-Fish-x]

Plants use CO2 during the day and give out oxygen. During the night they will use the oxgygen and give out CO2.
So in a heavily planted tank you should have extra aeration at night.
Its a common cause of death in ponds with green water, at night the algae is taking all the oxygen and the fish just suffocate.

[Limeyron]

Originally Posted by x-Lucy-Fish-x

Plants use CO2 during the day and give out oxygen. During the night they will use the oxgygen and give out CO2.
So in a heavily planted tank you should have extra aeration at night.
Its a common cause of death in ponds with green water, at night the algae is taking all the oxygen and the fish just suffocate.

Thanks for the reply. That's what I was trying to remember earlier. I shouldn't have a problem if I just get a couple of plants because I've just received my new air pump. It pumps up to 300 litres of air per hour, which is miles better than my old one that just pumps 54 LPH. The only problem is I forgot to order some new hose with it so at the moment I can only use one airstone.

Have you ever had any problems with the fish eating the plants? I've got plastic plants at the moment and my fish keep trying to eat those.

I'm redecorating my tank at the moment and ordered a piece of Mopani wood yesterday. It works the same as driftwood but doesn't decay like it. It's meant to be pretty beneficial to the fish and the tank water and looks good too.

[Limeyron]

The water is no longer dirty
My second pump has cleaned it right up and the fish seem to love it!

[blaze88]

I am lad your tank is better, but one thing to clear up about plants.

I do riverwatch and we had to learn all about DO levels and what is normal diffrent times of the day and why.

Plants durring the day, in the sun have photosynthesie, which takes sunlight CO2 and some water. The main byproducts are H ions and O2. Ovously fish are animals and breath O2. At night there is no sunlight for photosynthesis and plants do not use the 02 or the CO2.

What you are thinking of is that when plants die the microbacteria that decomposes them uses 02 to survive and puts CO2 in the water.

SO when your plants die take them out right away.