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Old 04-10-2005, 11:12 PM
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Hi!! evibody...i'm new here.....just wanna know whether izit my guppies r pregnant cos its stomach seems to be a lot bigger than my other guppies

n do i need to separate the pregnant female guppy to the other small tank n if my guppy really giv birth.....will it eat its own newly born guppies????

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Old 05-10-2005, 03:14 AM
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u have to check whether there is a big black spot on her stomach.If it isnt, then becareful that it is some sort of disease your guppy had contracted.
Yeap u need to separate her from other fish if she is pregnant and yes also she will gobble up the fries back into her stomach .Get some breeding tanks which had small holes for the fries to escape thru.

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Old 05-10-2005, 09:14 AM
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Yes what vincor said is true. If you can't get a breeding tank like me......just improvised with the smaller version of plastic sieve which our mothers used to wash vegies and to drain it from the wash water and float it in your tank with the pregnant female in it. Make sure the holes are small enough to retain your female and big enough for the fries to escape.

Make sure there's the gravid spot to ensure the female is really pregnant. Otherwise she might be bloated or housing some worms in her belly. The gravid spot is fairly easy to spot with grey bodies. I have some difficulties with shall I say platinum bodies which is quite transparent. People say you'll be able to see through but the fact is even the fries are more transparent than the mother. So where's the gravid spot!!! Haha some points to ponder.....

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Old 05-10-2005, 10:24 PM
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U guys r so helpful....thanx a lot

yesterday i separated the female guppy n it gave birth to 15 fries

but then after 1 day 4 of it die........is this normal n do the fries need a gas pump or a small type hanging filter is better....or it doesn't need both????

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Old 06-10-2005, 02:54 AM
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that may be the gene of the parents. Guppy parents that are weak may produce weak offsprings which may not be able to survive long.Another problem would be the temperature(make sure not too cold). Actually there is no need for gas pump or small hanging filter. Just make sure u change the water regularly and feed them enough food.

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Old 06-10-2005, 09:06 AM
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There's a lot of factor determining the survival rate of the fries. But I can tell you that I had about 10 batches of fries from different females but most of them didn't make it. So mathematically I should have about 200-500 juvies right now but guess what only about 40-60 left out of the potential 500. So it takes a lot of effort and understanding about keeping and raising them. Most importantly water management and food to maximise survival. Make sure your water is suitable although some said fries had higher tolerance because they were just starting to adapt to the environment where adults already adapted to a certain environment which I find not quite true. I had fries that started off very well and up to a month where they started to perish one by one without any sign of diseases. Food is also important to maximise growth. I am actually doing a self experiment with my guppies. I had the previous 8 batch of remaining fries of different strains grouped together in the community tank and the last 2 batches from the same strains in a grow-out tank. The batches birth were spread out about 2-3 months from the 1st to the 10th batch. The community tank were fed only powdered flake food & falke food for the bigger ones and the grow-out tank fed with baby brine shrimp and occasionally powdered flakes. The difference is tremendous. By the rate it is going, I can postulate that the grow out tank ones will reach the sizes of the community tanks juvies in a months time. The last 2 batch is the most successful ones I had so far about 30 fries. But if the parents genes is the problem it can't be help unless by outcrossing which is not for us amateurs We don't want to mess up the strain altogether.....


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galactuz....u mean if i feed it with the brine shrimp that u were saying......they will grow up faster n hav a more chance of survival rate???

but the fries r so small how can they eat the shrimp???

sorry ar...cos i'm really new in keeping guppies....hihi

now i have another guppy which r pregnant....can i mix the new batch of fries with the 1 that just born??

n the last thing...how can i know when my guppies r sick or infected by bacteria???


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Old 06-10-2005, 09:43 PM
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galactuz....u mean if i feed it with the brine shrimp that u were saying......they will grow up faster n hav a more chance of survival rate???
Yes.BBS have the highest protein a fry need which will of course boost their metalbolism and make them grow faster.But hatching baby brine shrimp wasnt easy too. U need to seperate the shells from the bbs(baby brine shrimp).And u also have to make sure u are having the right temperature. 28-29 degrees for fries will make them grow faster.After one month later u can drop temperature back to 24-25degrees.
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but the fries r so small how can they eat the shrimp???
BBS are very tiny creatures. Don't worry it wont fit in the mouth of the fries.Those BBS are as small as powder.
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sorry ar...cos i'm really new in keeping guppies....hihi
Pretty sure after u come here u wont be a new anymore.
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now i have another guppy which r pregnant....can i mix the new batch of fries with the 1 that just born??
not sure about this but i guess it is ok because i have no problems doing so.
but some advise not to which i don't know why.
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n the last thing...how can i know when my guppies r sick or infected by bacteria???
there are symptoms to look out for to determine whether your guppies are infected or not.but some disease dont have visible symtoms. visible symtoms are your guppies enjoying brushing against any objects which is ich problem,soon after that you will find some part of it skin drop off.bloated abdoment which is internal infection. Some internal infection is rather dangerous which have no visible symtoms.By the time u know it is sick is where it is already having abnormal swimming patterns(swim backwards,45degrees,upside down,cant even swim).I found these two disease rather common among guppies.my guppies never develope white spot before so i not so sure about white spots.Just know from some sifu advices that white spots came from sponge filters.

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Old 06-10-2005, 10:01 PM
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But if the parents genes is the problem it can't be help unless by outcrossing which is not for us amateurs We don't want to mess up the strain altogether.....
what he said was true.Unless u have no specific requirement for any specific breed u want. Outcrossing will stable the gene of the guppy but will mess up the strain unless u know what u are doing. In line breeding is safe and easy but will weaken the gene. Mostly guppies bought from lfs arent determinable whether they are F1 , F2 , F3 or F4 and so on. F1-F2 may still be ok but futher on will leads to weak guppies and lots of culls.Overall breeding guppies wasnt really that easy unless u know how it works.That's why lots of F1 guppies are going for high price. To start to have F1 would means Outcrossing.
On out crossing.
Must also determine the gene of the parents.
Dont only look for Pretty guppies
Always look this way before u buy the guppy
Healthy+Pretty
For Males:
Choose those that like to tail other guppies and also very energertic ones.Especially those that like to dart around.
For Females:
Choose those that are quite big body size.Big abdoments(Not bloated one) so they can house alot of fries. And of course don't choose those that enjoy staying at the bottom and doesnt move.This is a sign of weak guppy unless she is pregnant.

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Old 06-10-2005, 10:19 PM
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Hallo Vincor sifu....what do u mean by F1, F2, F3 n F4 guppies

cos now i hav how many kinds of guppies oso i didnt know

i just buy n mix them all together but of course with the ratio 1 male to 2 female....
rite now male i have those colourful 1 n the female i have the 1 with the red eye which its sizes r not so big and another female kinda like the red eye but it is without red eye n its size is a little bigger

can i mix all of them together n will they out cross???

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