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Old 20-08-2002, 09:01 AM
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Could anybody tell me where can I buy various kind of weed in KL or Penang? All the fish shop I visit only sell flower horn and other fishes. Hardly can see any weed.

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Old 20-08-2002, 10:28 PM
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Kian Weng in Air Itam again, but they mostly stock very common water plants. Just be sure that they ARE water plants first b4 u get them.... Too often in malaysia, they sell terrestrial plants as water plants and the plants just rot away and die and cause more problems with the water quality.

In KL, there is AI (Aquatics international, in Subang.. after the old international airport going towards Sungei Buloh.). Apparently there is an aquarium shop in Seremban where the owner specialises in aquarium plants. His shop doesn't really sell lots of plants (Water plants aren't popular in Malaysia... too much work to keep them... High intensity lighting, CO2 system, fertiliser.... Most ppl just can't be bothered.), but he has a whole farm producing just water plants for export.

I'm presuming you know what you're doing with the plants... because if you don't, they're not as easy as just putting them in the water and they will grow.

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Old 21-08-2002, 08:52 AM
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Kevkoi,
Thanks to the advice.
I have the same feeling with you too. Growing weed in tank still a very low profile in Malaysia. All the people are focusing to flower horn.

I just a starter to tropical fish. Now just a beginner in gold fish. Just collecting the weed tank plantation information.

There will be a challenge for weed tank plantation. But if can grow it successfully, there will be a great self satisfation.

Some fish shop also offer weed tank plantation, but the cost is extremely high, range from hundred to thousand depends on the tank size!
Why don't I DIY.

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Old 21-08-2002, 10:07 AM
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The reason why the planted tank cost so much is simply because the equipment does cost a lot. A complete CO2 diffusing system and an automatic pH adjustor (which if you want to do a planted tank correctly is necessary), cost somehere in the vacinity of RM400-500 itself. Then, to grow plants, one flourescent tube above the aquarium won't be enough, probably need 2-3tubes across the tank.... and the flourescent tube must be of the correct spectrum to grow plants (again each light tube cost RM40-50), Some ppl who are serious about plants use metal halide lighting.... (each unit of metal halide cost something like RM150)... and in a 4ft long aquarium, u'll need 2. Then when you plant the tank, you cannot plant with 'a few' plants and wait for it to grow. The algae will grow faster than the plants and all you'll get (with the CO2 system and strong lighting) is green water and lots of ugly algae. U need to plant very heavily from the start.... ie hundreds of plants (and this can cost a substantial amount of money). Then u gotta invest in aquarium plant fertiliser...... WaH, so much money to spend on just getting a tank full of plants. It's no wonder it is not very popular in Malaysia. Only someone very dedicated could afford and maintain such a system.

... oh, and because the tank is heavily planted and has CO2 introduced, the number of fish you can put in a planted tank is very few. At night when the lights go off, the plants respire and take a lot of oxygen from the water, depriving the fish of O2.... so if you have too many fish, they'll die from the lack of O2 at night.... Very tricky business.

DIY is not the best way to go in a planted tank.... There are articles written on the net about DIY CO2 diffusers using 'yeast culture', but I think that's kinda dangerous. No control over the CO2 diffusion rate.... U might like to search the net and read up on these DIY CO2 systems to begin with...

.... The reason why the 'Flowerhorn' is so popular at the moment is that it is a relatively easy fish to keep and maintain. Few disease problems, doesn't die on the slightest water quality problem, doesn't required the massive filtration for kois....... It's easy, and it doesn't really cost too much to maintain, plus it's got that cichlid character/personality. I'm not into 'flower horns', but I can see it's appeal to ppl who are novices in the fish keeping hobby.

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Old 21-08-2002, 10:20 AM
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The reason why the planted tank cost so much is simply because the equipment does cost a lot. A complete CO2 diffusing system and an automatic pH adjustor (which if you want to do a planted tank correctly is necessary), cost somehere in the vacinity of RM400-500 itself. Then, to grow plants, one flourescent tube above the aquarium won't be enough, probably need 2-3tubes across the tank.... and the flourescent tube must be of the correct spectrum to grow plants (again each light tube cost RM40-50), Some ppl who are serious about plants use metal halide lighting.... (each unit of metal halide cost something like RM150)... and in a 4ft long aquarium, u'll need 2. Then when you plant the tank, you cannot plant with 'a few' plants and wait for it to grow. The algae will grow faster than the plants and all you'll get (with the CO2 system and strong lighting) is green water and lots of ugly algae. U need to plant very heavily from the start.... ie hundreds of plants (and this can cost a substantial amount of money). Then u gotta invest in aquarium plant fertiliser...... WaH, so much money to spend on just getting a tank full of plants. It's no wonder it is not very popular in Malaysia. Only someone very dedicated could afford and maintain such a system.

... oh, and because the tank is heavily planted and has CO2 introduced, the number of fish you can put in a planted tank is very few. At night when the lights go off, the plants respire and take a lot of oxygen from the water, depriving the fish of O2.... so if you have too many fish, they'll die from the lack of O2 at night.... Very tricky business.

DIY is not the best way to go in a planted tank.... There are articles written on the net about DIY CO2 diffusers using 'yeast culture', but I think that's kinda dangerous. No control over the CO2 diffusion rate.... U might like to search the net and read up on these DIY CO2 systems to begin with...

.... The reason why the 'Flowerhorn' is so popular at the moment is that it is a relatively easy fish to keep and maintain. Few disease problems, doesn't die on the slightest water quality problem, doesn't required the massive filtration for kois....... It's easy, and it doesn't really cost too much to maintain, plus it's got that cichlid character/personality. I'm not into 'flower horns', but I can see it's appeal to ppl who are novices in the fish keeping hobby.

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Old 21-08-2002, 12:09 PM
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Looks like still a lot to learn. Never mind, just focus on my gold fish will do.

Hope to discuss more about fish experience information in this web.

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Old 15-11-2002, 05:27 PM
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You can get specialised aquatic plants in Pandan Indah, opposite the shopping complex and in Taman Maluri, behind Jusco.

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